As already stated, don't agree with your point about videos whatsover MJD. It [the market] was indeed that small. The Tube. There was music videos prior to MTV just like there was music videos after MTV. The fact they haven't been matched isn't that relevant as I already pointed out - it was a time where it was a lot, lot easier to dominate chart. I take it then, Nelson, that you missed the post earlier today showing the evolution of the size of the albums market (by volume) from the 60s through to the 1990s. But there's "Don't Stop Till You Get Enought" (1979) video on HIStory Greatest Hits Video. But I would not say I am a big fan of Michael Jackson. Back in the 1950s/1960s/1970s there was a limit on the number of TV channels available: BBC2 became the third national channel in 1964 (after BBC1 & ITV); Channel 4 did not start … Michael Jackson<33333. THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M PUTTING EITHER OF THEM DOWN, OR DISSING ANYONE WHO LISTENS TO THEM, because I respect them both as artists, but I just like the Beatles' music better, and I'm sure others would agree. I was always partial, though, to the dancing of Freddie & the Dreamers! I am curious. Because your assumption was proved false! It's no wonder that LP sales were low in the 1960s! This page was generated at 17:09. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWjVffR5 ... L&index=10, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOnL5c8LMqM, Welcome to UKMIX! Hello. All times are GMT-1. Michael Jackson Vs Elvis Vs The Beatles. Still have questions? Paperback Writer/Rain has a great claim to be so - please click on the link below for the youtube entry on this: So there you go! MJ, the biggest entertainer in human history. The DBTT Tour 05-06. Answer Save. ...the sixties album market was much smaller - my own relatives have told me that they literally had to save up to buy early sixties albums!! Which of the three artists/groups do you dislike most? I do not really dislike any of them and I like all of their songs/music. The Elvis Presley phenomenon was just as much of a team effort as The Beatles one, in fact maybe even more so. The Beatles really woke up the 60's but even they looked up tp Elvis. Jackson became a dominant figure in popular music in the late 1970s as the first black entertainer to amass a strong crossover following on MTV. It’s Unarguably Michael Jackson. Jackson didn't write all his material, i.e the song Thriller. Before you can post, you will have to. Anyone worked out any percentages of Beatles/ Jacko sales as a percentage of the total market sales of records in the UK/U.S/Rest of the world? But hey he recognised a great song when he saw it (heard it)....a bit like Elvis then. First official Beatles single released this day, 5th October, 1962. Oasis 03-04. For videos it is clear - it is Michael Jackson who made them big, nothing prevented the Beatles to do the same. Michael Jackson had a far greater opportunity to become a huge success thanks to the video for the following reasons. It’s like this five of his solo studio albums have become some of the world's best-selling pop records: Off the Wall (1979), Thriller (1982), Bad (1987), Dangerous (1991) and HIStory (1995). MJD is correct in that - and yet again Elvis is hindered yet still keeps shifting millions. L4e Forum. Jackson popularized physically complicated dance techniques, such as the robot and the moonwalk. Thriller, undoubtably a fine album, was a triumph of marketing. Share your reasons why. It was seen as a luxury item rather than an essential music item. There are....aren't there! So I disagree 100 percent with you there, videos definately gave Michael a big advantage over the Beatles and other sixties and seventies artists when it came to promoting albums and record sales. the invention of the CD helped boost Jackson's sales as well. Common knowledge, even among the illiterate pop watchers like me. The ultimate triumph of packaging over content, perhaps? Michael Jackson Vs Elvis Vs The Beatles. 'I wish the whole world could see you like I do'. Oasis 24/7. I like their stuff. The evidence is certainly beginning to point towards only one logical conclusion!!! Oasis 94-96. So how can you say that they had that tool, when they had nowhere, other than the odd tv channel, to use that tool?! They are running out of blind alleys to go down! There is none. It's no wonder that LP sales were low in the 1960s! All times are GMT-1. Michael Jackson has so much more talent that any of the Beatles, or even Elvis for that matter. I like Elvis :-) The Beatles were cool too, Michael jackson was a pervvvvvvv. Discussion. Still have questions? (although Jackson deserves credit for recognising the new media, and exploiting it well). Yes, agree, deano, Mj is revered throughout the World. But, I must admit airplay and the arrival of the CD format has benefited the Beatles' catalogue sales in the Soundscan era. :D Elvis was good as well as MJ but i think the beatles rised a little bit above the rest and i think they had a bit of a more worldly impact but Elvis and MJ will hold their place in music as well. The popularity of his videos aired on MTV, such as "Beat It" and "Billie Jean", helped bring the relatively young channel to fame; videos such as "Black or White" and "Scream" made Jackson a staple on MTV into the 1990s. It was not necessarily Jackson who made them big - they were already getting big! Do you like Barbra Streisand or Elton John more? I don't think you can compare the mass hysteria and fanaticism (and downright lunacy) of the world with the Beatles to the success of Michael's golden period of Thriller et all. Is meeting Justin Bieber your biggest dream? Sorry! Elvis. This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. Amazing! Hello Reddit, today i come in need of your assistance after i had just had a 10 minute argument with my mother questioning the popularity of these 3 Music Giants. He has done things Elvis and the beetles never did. For help, or to report any issues you're currently having, please visit the ProBoards Support Forum. Oasis 24/7. What you say about UK TV channels was true pretty much everywhere. This forum is powered by vBulletin software (vBulletin Solutions Inc. All rights reserved). Relevance. He is the most awarded artist in history; he has had the biggest tours of all time, breaking attendance records all over the planet. Stop The Clocks Promo Tour 06-07. This is exactly why Sony refused to pay for MJ videos, he paid them himself. Just Kidding. MJ was bigger than Elvis and The Beatles. How come? Beatles; there's no competition. The White Stripes are probably the best act that emerged in the last 10 years Deano, you should check their albums. In order I like Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, The Beatles. Why is everyone so in Love with Betty White ? Most people I knew didn't even have LP (33 1/3 rpm 12 inch) compatible record players when The Beatles started out... and the Please Please Me LP when released cost £1.80 (Music Week figure last week). The RPI increased by 15.5 times between 1963 and 2009 (official figures) so that's equivalent to £27.90 today. Well, I guess that definitely puts an end to the music video discussion!! 0. He is the world’s greatest humanitarian, and has done more things for kids than any other celebrity. This is complete nonsense. He also didn't invent the moonwalk, as I've just recently found out, but he was a better dancer then the Beatles, but I don't watch an artist and judge him on his dancing ability.